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MessagePosté le: Jeu 20 Nov - 13:17 (2008)    Sujet du message: Affaire VOL SWISSAIR 111 : Répondre en citant

Bonjour à tous .

Airline retraité , j' ai visionné sur Youtube toutes les vidéos sur l' horrible crash du SWISSAIR 111 . Sur l' enquête de 4ans et demi et de 40 millions d' US $ qui a suivi !
Ca m' a retourné les tripes ! J'en ai à peine dormi de la nuit suivante , tant la reconstitution est proche du réel .
D'abord , un coup de chapeau pour ces vidéos : un superbe travail , un véritable thriller de qualité .... si il n' y avait pas ces 238 morts bien morts .

Désolé , j' ai rédigé ma réaction en anglo-saxon , sur Youtube .

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Ma réaction personelle , donc :

I feel indeed upset by what I have just seen in this horrible story about the crash of Swissair Flight 111 on the very good Youtube vidéos .
The conclusion about the actual cause of the disaster seems to be searching for explanations only in matters of mecanic failur or flamable norms of some long used material !
It's turning me crazy ! How do they stay silent about the fact that no one intended to locate the place of the electric failur so as to act rightly to stop it ?

I am retired airline pilot , and I have leaved around the early eighties the withdrawal of the third technical crew member : the flight ingeener !

The most dreadfull event in a long range flight , as well in a short one ,in fact , is the electric blaze ! It's the most dramatic fire ever possible on board , becose at the time it lights up : any thing around the heat source has long been heated at the lightning point ! This is the cause of its very quick spreading .
Metal pieces are near melting point , full of calories , the action requires to stop feeding the somewhere grounded circuit , and to cool by any means the hot metal parts .

The common watchword concerning the way of facing a circuit malfunction and the most awfull of those : the electric fire , on short distance flight with two pilots , is to do and read the check list then to land as quickly as possible ! The end !

But this check list actions , in a two pilots crew , are needfully mostly very basic against the failur : they can't in anyway fill in for a failur research with corrective action to stop the danger of it .
In short range flight , this policy is acceptable , we do with it only as a cheap answer .
But for long range flight , it is a criminal nonsens !
A lot of cruise accidents would have been avoided , with a flight engeener on board !

It had been the subject of great fight between french SNPL (pilot sydicate) and the growing globalism pressur of lobbies forcing companies to admit the great interest of an only two cockpit crew to wage . The aircraft builders , with the airlines owners , decided to produce twin crew cockpitt Airliners .. so , the pilots had to comply with .
But the obvious fact remains :
- that it is utterly impossible to cope with the research and to treat any system failur if no flight ingineer is on board ! The two pilots are already at full mind power with the sudden amount of work to solve the flight managing and handle a landing of a partly disabled plane on an airfield they don't know .
- the idea of landing within a short time , on a long range flight is SIMPLY A JOKE in case of an inboard fire : in the middle of pacific , flight path are sometimes at many flight hours range of an affordable airport . ( ETOPS rules are all about that , but ...they have been turned into another funnies )

In the case of Swissair flight 111 , any flight engineer might have solved the electric trouble more or less simply by mooving the right switch and diverting or insulating the damaged feeder of the failed circuit ! ( Some of them , in the past ,used to go down in the radio hold to act with hands to separate a failing unit !)
And no one on board would have known that a letal fire had been avoided !
I have seen such flight " incidents" several times : but we have to think those small "failure" afterwards , to realise that this tiny fact could have led to something much mor hot . And then keep this little footage in mind , in case we meet that film again... that's what experience is all about !
With a flight engineer , this doom electric fire would have remained only as an flight incident only to mention on the technical flight log .

I have long flown with flight engineers ( on Boeing 707 ) they all knew the plane cicuits""on the tip of their fingers" ( french expression badly translated ) , and often , the third man , as we called him , and for several reasons , was the one who saved the ship from a crash .
Any captain of those time with a feedback trustworthyness will tell you .

The only and obvious conclusion of this very terrible story ( and a lot of others ) is that this miserly spare of the wage of this "third man" has know killed a lot of innocent peoples , and will stil do .
The globalism : more benefits for share holders , less money to the resources that help the job to be done is the actual killer ;
This criminal wrong thinking is drawing this one century of hard work from many great air pionners making a banal thing of flying confotably high over oceans , back to an hazardous criminal & blind money appliance .

Concerning only Switzerland , one of the richest country , this best " money reason " has crashed already at least three planes . (Constanz lake , crash of two planes , hand knitted too , by under- maned ATC )
Bad luck for the many dead 's relatives who are suffering the hell .

But , as for sept 11 in Manhattan , don't tell anybody , every one knows !
"tous les soirs , quand je vois le soleil se coucher , je meurs de rire !"
Youssef Lateef ( ten sax)
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